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Post by Soo Greyhounds on Jan 17, 2016 16:46:19 GMT -5
This change would go into affect at the end of the season.
I think teams are to restricted with our current 18 player prospect roster limit. This has a negative impact on trade negotiations involving prospects/draft picks due to not having the additional space to take on assets.
Keep in mind it is not our intention to continue to add minor positions before each entry draft. Once we find a number that works best for our league managers will then have to work within those limitations each season.
It is best we determine these changes now so that GM's can decide how to best manage their assets before the trade deadline.
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Post by Kitchener Rangers on Jan 17, 2016 16:55:56 GMT -5
27 would make that we have 50 players max just like a NHL franchise if I'm correct. Anywho I'm fine with 23 prospects, won't be able to fill all the spots with decent prospects if we get more.
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Post by Soo Greyhounds on Jan 17, 2016 17:27:20 GMT -5
I was trying to look that up but so far haven't had any luck. Any idea where I might find that?
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Post by Kitchener Rangers on Jan 17, 2016 17:53:58 GMT -5
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Post by Hamilton Bulldogs on Jan 17, 2016 17:55:59 GMT -5
I found this...
Teams have four different “roster” limits to balance under the league’s regulations; a 20-player “dressed list” for games, a 23-player active NHL roster, a 50-contract maximum, and a 90-player maximum reserve list.
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Post by Ottawa 67's on Jan 17, 2016 20:45:26 GMT -5
I vote to leave it as is or go to 20 as the maximum, but that is not an option in the poll. I also think that a seven round entry draft is excessive - 3 or 4 rounds should be plenty, you are really just throwing darts after you get past the 3rd round. Leaving a few more guys in the free agent pool allows the keeners to do their homework and be rewarded. Regardless, I will go with the majority, whatever is decided.
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Post by Kitchener Rangers on Jan 17, 2016 20:57:52 GMT -5
I agree with what Ottawa is saying about the amount of draft rounds. Maybe it is best that we grow to 23 players maximum with 7 rounds this year and then from next season on maximum 4 or 5 rounds per year?
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Post by Flint Firebirds on Jan 18, 2016 5:47:18 GMT -5
Agree with Ottawa
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Post by Hamilton Bulldogs on Jan 18, 2016 20:47:10 GMT -5
3 rounds of our draft is 48 picks. That's only half way into the 2nd round of the NHL draft.
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Post by Erie Otters on Jan 19, 2016 0:15:14 GMT -5
7 rounds is fine. If a team doesn't want to draft after, say, the 5th round, then they should have the right to skip their pick. I've been in one league that had a 3 round draft before, and it sucks, cause the good prospects get taken in free agency by the same few teams. Prospects are a gamble, but a 7 round draft gives teams the opportunity to find that "steal" if they spend more time researching that draft class.
As for the amount of prospects allowed, I think anywhere between 24-27 would be appropriate.
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Post by Saginaw Spirit on Jan 19, 2016 16:53:43 GMT -5
I like 25 for the 7 rounds, but I'd suggest 27-29 up until maybe a week before the season. This allows people who have accumulated extra picks to still draft with all their picks. I have 8 and I'll have room in my minors team to accommodate 8 picks at a 25 man roster, so I'm not just saying this for my own benefit. But with a few cushion spots and part of preseason to become compliant it doesn't force anyone to drop prospects or miss picks, at least until they can make an educated decision.
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Post by Windsor Spitfires on Jan 27, 2016 18:42:47 GMT -5
I agree with Otter and Spirit here
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 20:13:02 GMT -5
My other league uses 5 rds , it is a good number but fine with whatever
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Post by Saginaw Spirit on Jan 27, 2016 22:56:47 GMT -5
I'd say go to five next year but we'd have to figure out how to rectify the trades that involved 6&7 rounders. Possibly remove them asap for 17 & 18 to prevent anymore trades using them.
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Post by Erie Otters on Jan 28, 2016 19:39:28 GMT -5
I'd say go to five next year but we'd have to figure out how to rectify the trades that involved 6&7 rounders. Possibly remove them asap for 17 & 18 to prevent anymore trades using them. That seems like it's going to be a lot more difficult than it needs to be. Why not just use the "grandfather" concept? All picks after 2018 are only rounds 1-5, and if a team doesn't want to draft rounds 6 & 7 from now until 2018, they can just forfeit their pick. Also, are we going to increase the amount of reserve spots we have on our NHL rosters? I haven't been here long but I've already seen some crazy drops from top teams because they need all 3 spots for their playoff push. Guys like Girgensons, Backlund, etc. should not be on the waiver wire/free agency in a 16-team, salary cap dynasty league. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by Kitchener Rangers on Feb 4, 2016 17:42:05 GMT -5
I'd say go to five next year but we'd have to figure out how to rectify the trades that involved 6&7 rounders. Possibly remove them asap for 17 & 18 to prevent anymore trades using them. That seems like it's going to be a lot more difficult than it needs to be. Why not just use the "grandfather" concept? All picks after 2018 are only rounds 1-5, and if a team doesn't want to draft rounds 6 & 7 from now until 2018, they can just forfeit their pick. Also, are we going to increase the amount of reserve spots we have on our NHL rosters? I haven't been here long but I've already seen some crazy drops from top teams because they need all 3 spots for their playoff push. Guys like Girgensons, Backlund, etc. should not be on the waiver wire/free agency in a 16-team, salary cap dynasty league. Just my 2 cents. I would be fine with more spots but then also salary has to rise. I like this $ amount actually, shouldn't make it too easy for managers. Also Backlund is perfectly droppable with his salary and Girgensons had a very, very rough first few months so if someone gives up hope on him it's not surprising.
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Post by Erie Otters on Feb 5, 2016 22:18:13 GMT -5
Also Backlund is perfectly droppable with his salary and Girgensons had a very, very rough first few months so if someone gives up hope on him it's not surprising. Because Girgensons plays injured for 2 months, that warrants a drop? He just turned 22, was on pace for 20-20-40 totals as a rookie, is C and LW eligible, and adds 1.5 hits per game. I can't imagine why he would be dropped in a 12 team league, but in a 16 team league? That's almost inexcusable.
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Post by Soo Greyhounds on Feb 7, 2016 9:13:18 GMT -5
So we are looking at 25 minor positions (judging by the majority). 20 minor positions seems to be the second most popular option.
5 draft picks seems to be the popular number. I certainly wouldn't lower it less than that but 5 does seem like a reasonable number. That puts us a little over halfway through the 3rd round in the real draft.
The grandfather idea doesn't seem like a bad solution. We will draft 7 rounds this upcoming draft though (which will work good because we will be opening up minor positions at the same time anyways). I'm still getting back on track here but I will look further into this options when I get some more time to mess with things.
Erie Otters I would recommend starting another thread regarding major roster positions and salary cap. It gets pretty tough to analyze everyone's suggestions on this topic let alone adding even more to the debate. I certainly think what your suggesting here and have mentioned in chat is worth discussing. So feel free to start a thread to get the ball rolling to discuss those potential ideas.
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